Marc Maron: Part 1

Posted by Sharilyn On May - 30 - 2010

Since premiering in September of last year, Marc Maron’s podcast, WTF, has become required listening for anyone who claims to take an interest in the comic mind. His interviews with comedians provide twice-weekly sustenance to even the most studious of comedy fans, and with his own life and thoughts at the forefront of every episode, listeners have gone from just knowing Maron’s name to feeling like they really know him. I sat down with him in Toronto to talk about the process, the listenership, and the genesis of WTF.

Maron: It was pretty impulsive. I’d been fired again at Air America. My partner Brendan who was my producer for years on radio and on the internet, tv, we’d just lost our jobs but we still had our passcards, so we said “let’s try to podcast”. So we’d basically break in to Air America after hours and just hijack the studio and have guests come up. Which was kind of awkward. We’d have Gaffigan, or Stanhope, or Janeane, or Caroline Rhea who were coming to these late-night sessions. We’d tell them “text us when you’re here” and we’d go down the back elevator. So at first we really didn’t know what was going to happen with it. We thought maybe we’d get 1,000 people listening by virtue of my small name power. But then people started to dig it, so we got on a regular schedule with it and let it evolve.

Has anything surprised you about it, as far as putting it together? It seems like it should be a lot of work.

It’s like a job. It’s definitely taking up a lot of time. Doing what’s necessary to get it out there, and getting people t-shirts. I do all the guest booking, and lining up all the stuff. But I like the work and it’s starting to make a little money. And Brendan and I are a really good team. He does all the production and I trust him implicitly. I enjoy getting an audience and talking to people again. And really getting to know my peers. We all know each other, but a lot of people I’ve never really spoken to for that long. I don’t think anyone has talked to Dave Attell as long as I have in one sitting.

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Just For Laughs: The Alternative Show

Posted by Sharilyn On July - 26 - 2009

The Alternative Show is one of those “sure things” of the festival, and with its midnight start time typically ends up capping off my week in Montreal. All the comics have gotten to know each other and are slightly loopy from the lack of sleep, and the paying audience usually only fills the main level, leaving the balcony for us laminate-clad folks who just didn’t get enough of host Andy Kindler at the State of the Industry address.

It became clear off the top that Kindler has a following in Montreal, something certainly not lost on him.

“This is a very vocal crowd and I don’t enjoy that,” he said.

Reggie Watts & Jon Dore double up at Saturday night's Alternative Show

Reggie Watts & Jon Dore double up at Saturday night's Alternative Show


Jon Dore kicked things off alongside surprise guest Reggie Watts. They each did their own standup set simultaneously, ignoring the existence of each other. It went on just long enough to start being enough, and then they came back out for an encore. Hilarious.

“Maybe I’m old school, but I found that very distracting,” Kindler said.

If slapstick is included in the Alternative Show does that mean it’s cool now? I sure hope so. Josh Fadem fell down, got tangled in the mic cord, split his pants, got stuck while taking his sweater off, fell down some more… and did manage to get some jokes out in the process. Hooray for physical comedy, and a secondary hooray for having a special mic brought out for him to screw around with instead of causing problems with the normal one (is it wrong of me to notice these things?)

Aubrey Plaza, who is new at all this from having to learn standup for her role in Funny People, had some good stuff about old people on the internet, and New York City being “the only city where I’m afraid of having trash blown into my mouth.” During the week many were hailing her fast progress, but as should be expected there’s some work to do on the presentation side. Her awkward/blase/depressed tone works, but we could do without all the “umms” and then breaking that character by giving us a relatively chipper thanks/goodbye at the end.

Matt Besser brought out his Jason Yellow character (the no-armed deaf and blind comic) from North America’s Best Comic, one of my favourites from that show the night before. It was weird enough to work well, although Besser seemed to have forgotten about one of his characters traits. His “braille” setlist was taped to his leg so he could read it with his bare foot, but he kept looking down at it instead. But I think everyone was laughing too hard to care, so let’s move on.

Nick Kroll’s initial “what’s uuuuup Montreal!” gangsta schtick was hilarious unto itself even before he promised his set was “goona be a lot more Goldblum-y than that.” I can’t wait to see his newly pitched show about a bilingual hat called Fedora the Explorer.

And while I’m at it, allow me to burn one of Matt Braunger’s best lines: “Wild boys! Wild boys! Sorry, I have Duran Tourettes”. Runner up: “Since you guys have 15 sex shops for every 1 sex shop in this town…”

Marc Maron began the final set of the night with a tale about himself, Kindler, and Eugene Mirman getting lost while driving to a Target in the outskirts of Cincinatti — wherin we learn that he does a fantastic Kindler impression.

Maron moved onto a chunk very close to my heart, about his experience in Winnipeg a few months ago. “What the fuck is this? how many times can someone show me the windiest corner in North America?… I fought the urge to go up to people and say ‘you can just GO. Get on a bus or a plane or a train and just GO someplace where there’s coffee shops and black people…’” (I’m a former Winnipegger and did finally realize a few years ago that I could indeed just GO.)

He closed with a story about what must be the craziest woman he’s ever met on the road (I hope), who wanted him to help deliver a letter to the Governor at 1:30am because he’d saved her from Mormons. Or something like that. The crowd loved Marc, cementing my suspicion that everyone who loves Andy also loves him. A great way to bookend the evening.

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The hour we wait all year for (ok, I wait for… and Elon Gold waits for…you had to be there) was finally upon us this afternoon, as Andy Kindler delivered the 14th (really?!) annual State of the Industry Address at the Hyatt.

The blogged-about-yesterday Marc Maron introduced Kindler this year, because “I, like Andy, have absolutely nothing left to lose.”

Some highlights….

On the room, the logistics, and the crowd

Upon manager Bruce Smith coming up to tell Andy to move the extra mic blocking his face, Andy mused on the hotness of “partially obscured comedy”.

“Let’s make a podium but not make it useful like a podium would be.”

“Am I getting punk’d, or is that to old a reference?”

“We know he’s a standup comic, let’s have him work in the middle of two microphones”.

Later: “How’s the sound coming out of my shoulders?”

On the Festival itself

A Masters show called “the Mastrodesiacs”

“Claude Monet did the Masters show. Before he did a painting, he’d say ‘do you folks like Impressionism?’”

“After 9 years I was able to secure 2 economy class tickets for me and my wife.”

He got a call this year from the festival saying their airline seats might not be together this year, and he should go online the night before and if he could fix it himself. “Only Montreal would be able to find a way to do slightly less than the least they could possibly do.”

All About Andy:

“Everything I try to say is industry related or has to be something I saw on tv. I can’t do ‘on my way into the speech I saw they have energy drinks’.”

“I’m going to ridicule things that I’m not familiar with. I don’t have the time often to see everything. Does that make me the bad guy, as Carlos Mencia says after every joke? I’m the racist guy, because I said the racist thing? I’m the horrible guy because I said the horrible thing?”

“Andy seems to have a good personality, why can’t he have a show? And control the budget?”

“As you know, my act has gone completely digital. I signed a deal with the rabbit ears company. When everyone is no longer digital, I’ve signed on to continue completely in analog. So people in Florida will get me.”

“Sometimes when I’m on the road – and I say ‘sometimes’ because it’s hard to book me.”

“I’m doing a show called Up Your Alley. I play Alvin Alley, a private detective who lost his office due to recession and has to meet clients in an alley.”

Reality show pitch: “Real families who get foreclosed and become homeless, and we force them to act upbeat. Or we make them date each other.. Or give them 50k and make them fight over it.”

Sitcom pitch: “Everybody Feels Sorry For Raymond. Ray loses his job and can’t find any work except for free blog writing. Then he gets into a fight with Arianna Huffington.”

“For a couple months this year I toured the country as Andy Semitic. Sold out in Idaho every night.”

Joke about his mom using hip catchphrases: “my mom works for Bravo, that’s why it’s an industry joke.”

“I just got cast in a show called Over The Hills. Has someone done that joke? It seems too easy.”

Andy received an email meant for the other Andy Kindler, the professional wrestler. Andy clarified, and the guy wrote back with “thanks for letting me, know, I’ve been looking for him for a possible booking.”

“I was the first comic to say “have you seen or heard about the thing I’m about to talk about?’.”

“I was the first comic to fill up a dead moment by asking ‘what else is in the news?’”

“I was the first to say “am I right ladies?” Before that, comics didn’t care what lades thought of them.”

“I was the fist comic to find out what the name of the gay club in town, so I could do a joke about going there by accident.”

“I’ve created a lot of catchphrases. I have back end on ‘my bad’.”

“Facebook is a way to reconnect with people you’ve been trying to avoid for the last 10 or 15 years. This is a phrase I don’t need to hear: ‘are you still doing comedy?’”

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The biz & everything else:

On the Shamwow commercials: “Are you following me camera guy?”… “Tell ya what: you go on, we’ll come back and do pickups.”

On the economy hurting the execs: “You don’t know where your next paycheck is coming from, you have no 401k, now you know what it’s like to be a standup comic.”

On Howie Mandel making it onto the list of the 10 richest comedians: “Is anyone looking into this? Is there an investigation underway? I don’t even know if that’s counting Howie Do it.”

“Fox just signed milquetoast to a holding deal.”

“I used to think people didn’t get sarcasm, now I think people just don’t like sarcasm. ‘Why can’t he just SAY Howie Mandel doesn’t deserve $12 million a year?’”

“I have not seen a second of Tyler Perry and I know he’s horrible. My rule is, if you’re dressed up like a woman, that’s it. Mrs. Doubtfire won’t do it for me.”

“I just got a call from Obama. I was named Secretary of Funny. My first act will be to recall Larry the cable Guy…. Immediate moratorium on song parodies…. 20% across the board cutback in shock comedy…. Heavy fines for use of word ‘retards’ by alternative comics….Higher tariffs on overseas props. Buy American, Carrot Top!….Federal option for comedians not employed by Judd Apatow.”

Andy is very sad about agent layoffs, “but would prefer to see layoffs of 100%”.

Agents = “overdressed amoral freaks”

“I believe there should be less people in the entertainment industry who don’t entertain.”

“’Nice going Andy, CAA’s not going to sign you now.’ I would be more likely to have Jeremy Piven represent me.”

“William Morris and Endeavor are merging. Endeavor is bringing their 21st century poaching techniques, and William Morris brings the energy of a company that stopped trying 50 years ago. It’s a perfect synergy.”

Entertainment Weekly’s “What To Watch” section should really be called “Don’t Shoot the Messenger” or “Here it is, Good Luck to You”

The What To Watch writer’s commentary underneath the listing for Watch What happens Live (Bravo show) was ‘Yes because I’m interested in hearing Danielle’s thoughts on Transformers’. “Does anyone know who Danielle is?”

“You can’t yell fire in a crowded theatre, but you can yell fire in any screening of Paul Blart Mall Cop because those people deserve to be trampled to death.”

“Drew Carey, boy has he really parlayed himself into the world’s most boring gig.”

“They’re going to try to put Dane Cook in every format now to see what works. He’ll be Dane Cook CSI…. Dane Cook Morning Show: Good the Fuck Morning!… Game show host of Deal or Don’t Deal With It.”

“An article in Hollywood reporter said ‘Cook’s team agrees the key is finding the right piece of material’. I suggest they don’t go to Dane for that.”

“When did Bill Cosby decide it was a good career move to be deadly serious every time he’s on tv?”

“The Farrelly Brothers are remaking the Three Stooges. When I heard that, I couldn’t keep anything down for a day or two. They’re going to remake everything and ruin all our memories…. Is there something the Three Stooges left unsaid? What stone did the Three Stooges leave unturned? Were they not over the top enough?”

“When you read in the trades that Jim Carrey is in negotiations to play Curly, you know the end is near. What could be holding those negotiations up?”

Alternative titles to I’m a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here: I’m a Celebrity, What did I Do To Deserve This Other Than This? I’m a Celebrity, Who Died and Prevented Me From Making These Horrible Choices?

“Larry King had the Bachelor on so he could get his take on Jon and Kate. A fake person to comment on a fake situation. He also asked Judge Judy what she thought about the Supreme Court nominee. And asked Candy Spelling if she likes to Twitter.”

“I saw a special on the Discovery Channel about unmanned drones. I thought an unmanned drone was Jay Leno at a corporate gig.”

“Will Jay Leno be able to be as edgy at 10pm as he was at 11:35? Will he still be able to have that late night jazzy feel? That subversive devil may care feel? Will people really GET Jaywalking? Will he have to dumb it down even further?”

On claims by NBC that Leno’s topical jokes will be “dvr-proof”: “Really? Jokes so weak that by morning they’ll be completely irrelevant?”

“They’re saying he new set is being constructed for comedy, should Jay not bring any comedy.”

“[Leno’s] jokes will be tested rigorously in Hermosa Beach”

On how 5 hours of Leno will be cheaper to produce than one hour of drama: “You know what would be cheaper? Not making any shows at all. Why don’t you just close at 8pm. Come back tomorrow morning to watch 5 hours of the Today Show.”

On Carson Daly’s fate come fall: “Who else would you want to see after 12 hours of talk shows?”

On the PBS special Make ‘Em Laugh: “It was made by people who clearly didn’t know anything about comedy, because they split everything into arbitrary categories. Wisecrackers! Noise Makers! Seltzer Deliverers!”

“Andy Rooney is still doing bits about crazy stuff he got in the mail.”

“Sherri Sheppard is getting her own sitcom, in case you were wondering ‘how is she going to be rewarded for her outstanding work on the View?’”

“There’s a lot of things I want to say right now in lieu of crying. Maybe I could be paid to stay home next year.”

“I feel bad for the Video Professor…. How good can your product be if you refer to it as a product?”

“I’m going to be Andy Analog. “Do you need tips on repairing a 56k modem? Is the magnifying glass you use to make fire cracked? I can convert any media into older media. Would you like to change your dvds into flip books?”

(And the above, dear readers, is possibly the first situation where being a girl in her 30s with strong office skills is advantageous: I’ve taken dictation for a lot of middle-aged Jewish men in my day. But none as great as Andy, of course.)

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Just For Laughs: The Hills, Chris Gethard, & Marc Maron

Posted by Sharilyn On July - 23 - 2009

First order of business: John Cleese is not dying. Yes, he had to cancel his Gala appearance last night due to prostatitis. But he’s not on death’s door — I saw him saunter through the exit of the Hyatt this morning, looking a little tired (stressed?) but otherwise in one piece. So Pythonheads and gala ticketholders, don’t panic. Based on my non-professional medical assessment from glancing at him as he walked by me, he’ll be ready for the rescheduled gala on Sunday night. More info on that here: http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Replacement+show+John+Cleese/1818295/story.html

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Other shows from last night that I want to give mention to: The Hills, Chris Gethard’s Magic Box of Stories, and Marc Maron’s Scorching The Earth.

The Hills: A Staged Reading is exactly what it sounds like. A lineup of Upright Citizens Brigade Theatre performers (Aubrey Plaza, Lennon Parham, Tami Sagher, Reggie Watts, Andy Daly, Riki Lindhome and Kate Micucci) held simple black binders, stepping forward to deliver the insipid dialogue in the most serious of tones. This simple formula is a product of UCBT-LA, and the results are incredibly pleasing. Reggie Watts in particular made a hilarious Brody (just picture it) and Aubrey Plaza was a better Lauren Conrad than Lauren herself.

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The Hills was paired with Chris Gethard’s Magic Box of Stories, which I was thrilled to see after hearing so much about it. Audience members were selected to pull index cards from a box, which would dictate which absolutely true story Gethard would tell. On this night: tales about being a wrestling manager named White Pimp, being on assignment for Weird New Jersey magazine, and going through a herpes scare. What makes the show truly great are the video clips of his mother commenting on each story via videotape. She approves of virtually nothing he’s done, and her reactions are priceless. If my schedule allowed it, I’d attend his Saturday matinee of the show as well, as the content is guaranteed to be different.

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I’ve been anxious to see Marc Maron for ages, and after a few near misses I was thrilled to see him on the schedule for JFL. Myself and an oddly sparse crowd (4 people total within the first 4 rows, though it filled out in back) were treated to a very dark and funny show centring around his two past marriages.

“There’s a blurb you don’t see in theatre posters – ‘Draining! 5 stars!’” he joked partway through.

Indeed, it’s a little heavy. But it’s funny, and his complete acknowledgment of his own behavior and mistakes makes it comfortable to take the ride with him. We know that despite his claims otherwise, he wouldn’t be so self-aware if he were as much of an asshole as the stories illustrate.

“I don’t know how many times I can stick my dick into a hurricane and expect different results,” he said.

What he shares seems less like his truth, and more like the truth about the destruction of his relationships. At times, it’s almost as if he’s witnessed all this from afar, or is talking about a whole other person. He never mentions being in therapy, but it’s hard to imagine anyone becoming this enlightened on their own. Chalk this one up as a “must see”.

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